I discuss the following quesitons … Is there such thing as a perfect climate? Will we ever solve climate change? What even is climate change? Oh, and how did it enable Donald Trump to get elected? Mike Hulme, Professor of Human Geography and Fellow of Pembroke College at Cambridge University, joins us on this premiere installment of Season Two on Climate Change to discuss the culture and history of climate change, rebuke the immunity of science, and debate the purpose of climbing Sudanese mountains.